Who are the real Gog and Magog in prophecy?

Who are Gog, Magog, Meshech, and Tubal prophesied in Ezekiel 38? There are two schools of thought on this and both of them see the other side as non-scholarly and wrong. On the July 26 radio show of In the Market with Janet Parshall, Dr. Timothy Dailey (author of Apocalypse Rising), stated that he was someone who believed that Gog, Magog, Meshech, and Tubal referred to Turkey since ancient Assyrian sources noted that these people were located in Anatolia in Asia Minor. Dr. Dailey discussed this at about 12:20–16:00 and from  24:44–27:44 in the first hour of the show. He and others deny this has any reference at all to Russia. Consequently, they also claim the Bible gives us no specific clues about who spiritual Babylon is in Revelation.

The other school of thought is that Meshech and Tubal clearly refer to Moscow and Tobolsk in Russia. They also cite ancient sources that connect Russia to Gog and Magog, Meshech and Tubal.

So which one is correct? Based on what ancient sources say about Anatolia/Cappadocia in Asia Minor (Turkey), I believe that the people who inhabited Gog and Magog, Meshech (the Mushki people who became Georgians) and Tubal, migrated from Turkey across the Caucasus regions to Georgia then moved on to what we know as Moscow and Tobolsk in Russia. In looking at Ezekiel’s prophecy, we must take note that it speaks of a time in the future because it hasn’t been fulfilled yet. Are the people of ancient Meshech and Tubal still considered Anatolians? Will they be considered Anatolians in the future?

I believe Ezekiel 38 speaks of an alliance among Russia, Turkey, other Europeans, and Islamic nations, so there is truth in both schools of thought. However, the Meshech and Tubal people are now known prominently as Russians, in my view. On the other hand, I believe people like Dr. Dailey are being influenced wrongly for their dismissal altogether of Russia in prophecy or in their denial about who spiritual Babylon really is.

In examining the motives of what could be behind such denials, I came to the conclusion that Rome, who is clearly exposed as spiritual Babylon in Rev. 17:9, 18, wishes to muddy the waters regarding their evil place in Bible prophecy and is also covering for Russia. Why? The Russian Orthodox Church has submitted to the Vatican’s authority over them. Since they are so closely tied together, I suspect Rome spread the theory that neither Russia nor Rome are the villains in Bible prophecy to throw people off their trail.

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