“Christian” leaders fear Qur’an burnings

While the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, FL proceeds with its plans to burn the Quran on 9/11, some “Christian” leaders are complaining about the congregation’s plans.  Among the Christian groups who have expressed opposition to burning the Qurans is the National Council of Churches (NCC) and the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE).

The NCC feels that the anti-Muslim mentality is “out of fear and a misunderstanding of the true nature of Islam.”  The NCC also claims in its statement that the Florida church is “[m]isguided or confused about the love of neighbor by which Christ calls us to live… Such open acts of hatred are not a witness to Christian faith. They contradict the ministry of Christ and the witness of the church in the world.”

The NAE released its statement claiming that Dove World Outreach Center’s plans “work against a just and peaceful society,” and that they “show disrespect for our Muslim neighbors and would exacerbate tensions between Christians and Muslims throughout the world.”

Meanwhile protests throughout the Muslim world are taking place with the usual chants of “Death to America” and “Long live Islam” while they call for jihad and burn the U.S. flag.  But, of course, no one is trying (or has ever tried) to silence their chants or actions.

The Florida church continues to reiterate that “We are using this act to warn about the teaching and ideology of Islam, which we do hate as it is hateful.  We do not hate any people, however. We love, as God loves, all the people in the world and we want them to come to a knowledge of the truth. To warn of danger and harm is a loving act.”

Both the NCC and the NAE are known for criticizing evangelicals when evangelicals do not subscribe to their liberal leanings.  At heart, these organizations are universalists and believe that all religions lead to one god even though they (mis)use the name of Christ.  The NCC and NAE have also joined other groups in their criticism of the protests against the mosque near Ground Zero claiming that protesting Islam in any way, shape, or form hurts Christians in Muslim countries.

However, they seem to miss the fact that Christians have always been persecuted and brutalized in Muslim countries–long before these latest controversies came along.  Despite this well-known fact, the NCC, NAE, and other critics (including the mainstream media) don’t speak out as loudly when anti-Christian expressions or anti-Christian violence occurs.

Why do these people criticize expressions against Islam?  They do it for several reasons:

  • Some “Christians” believe that Islam, like Judaism and Christianity, is a religion based on Abrahamic covenant and as such should be respected.  But they ignore the fact that Islam claims that Ishmael, not Isaac, is the son that received God’s blessings and is Abraham’s only true heir.  This belief is false and has nothing to do with God’s covenant with Abraham.
  • They are unaware of or they ignore the Koran’s statements that it is okay to enslave non-Muslims, force them into “islam” (a word that means “submission”), or kill non-Muslims who don’t comply.
  • They are afraid that if Muslims are offended, the help they will need from Muslims to fulfill their own self-serving goals will be jeopardized.
  • They fear Muslims for the simple fact the Muslims get violent when they don’t get their way.  Although violent Muslims are in the minority presently, this minority has a no-holds barred view to violence which seeks to do the most damage it can.
  • They want Islam to be accepted in their steps toward the one-world religion they are trying to establish as part of the one-world government.  Since Islam condones the use of violence against its enemies, they know that this use of violence will be useful to their purposes sometime in the future.

The planned burning of Qurans and the opposition to the burnings takes me back to the book of Acts, reminding me of two incidents from that book.  One incident is where a book burning took place and books on sorcery and witchcraft were burned–

And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds.  Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.  So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed. [Acts 19:18-20]

The other incident is where the pagan Demetrius and his fellow tradesmen, who were enriched by people worshiping the goddess Diana, sparked a riot against Paul and his companions for preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ because they felt threatened by it–

Moreover ye see and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands:  So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth.  And when they heard these sayings, they were full of wrath, and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.  And the whole city was filled with confusion… [Acts 19:26-29]

These scriptures show that burning the books of false religion went along with the spread and prevalence of the word of God in people’s lives.  It was the denunciation of pagan beliefs and the counting of all earthly things as loss for the excellency and knowledge of Christ Jesus the Lord.  Rioting and demonstrations against Christ’s gospel sparked by the preaching of God’s word is a sign of hatred against Christians and the fomenting of fear.  So who is really on the side of truth when it comes to the mosque near Ground Zero and the Quran burnings in Florida?

Source: Joshua A. Goldberg, Christian Leaders Repeat Calls to Halt 9/11 Qu’ran Burnings, ChristianPost.com, Sept. 6, 2010.

–posted by Harry A. Gaylord–

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  1. Harry you bring out some good points here.
    While I am not concerned with being politically correct for the sake of liberalism or so called religious freedom in The United States, I am concerned with the safety of American troops all over the world, and their families. It isn’t very often these days that I find myself agreeing with public statements made in the political or military arena, but I think General Petraeus has a valid point about these actions possibly inciting further attacks and violence on our troops in Afghanistan and elsewhere.
    Coming from a military family myself, I have seen how these groups will latch onto any public statement or action to further their own evil agenda. I just think people need to give careful consideration to exactly who and what these actions affect the most. American Military families are already sacrificing so much for us and even for a government who is lying to them, and not looking out for their safety, and will use them for their own means. I hate to think of a soldier and his family paying the price for our need to publicly incite furor and excitement.


    1. Allison I can understand and empathize with the concerns over American soldiers, but I can’t say I agree per se. War is a bloody endeavor and as much as we don’t want it to, it leads to loss of life. And those who sign up know the risks of what could happen. We would not have been in a war if it hadn’t been declared against us on 9/11 by Islamists.

      So as much as Al-qaeda, the Taliban, and other Muslims say “You infidels are on our land, so we’ll kill you”, or “You infidels are killing our civilians so we’ll kill you”, or “You infidels are destroying our poppy crops used to fund our cause, so we’ll kill you”, we see the enemy uses any excuse because they love taking life. But isn’t that truly a reflection who their real spiritual father is?

      And now we want to blame an insignificant number of Americans in Florida for putting soldiers in danger, so we pressure them to curtail their exercise of a Constitutional right to freely express themselves by burning Qurans. Burning the Koran is an extremely far cry from taking a life. The only ones to blame for taking soldiers’ lives are the ones who make a personal decision to go out and kill them. Muslims don’t want us to blame all Muslims for 9/11, yet all Americans are being judged by Muslims based on a non-violent action of a miniscule number of Americans in Gainesville, FL. How hypocritical.

      If this pastor backs down, which I hope he doesn’t, the international bullies of Islam will be emboldened all the more. Next they’ll demand that we stop preaching about Jesus Christ, then they’ll demand we allow them to have sharia law in the U.S. like they do in parts of the U.K. And cowardly Americans (politicians and others) who are afraid of being bullied will comply to please their masters of the New World Order. Bullies are never stopped by kowtowing to their demands.

      I wonder if the Establishment will somehow run a smear campaign against the pastor like they did with Assange from Wikileaks to make him comply with their wishes? Although I didn’t agree with Mr. Assange’s leaking of documents, trumping up sexual harassment charges against him was way out of line and so obvious as to what was really going on.

      IMHO,this pastor is being used as a test case to see if all Christians in the U.S. can be swayed by the Establishment (i.e. New World Order organizations) to do what the Establishment wants. Already we are hearing the buzzword “Freedom to worship” being used by Secretary of State Clinton and the State Dept., which refers to allowing people to worship within the four walls of a government-recognized religious org. (i.e. a 501c3) but not allowing them expression in public. It is the same phrase used to curtail “Freedom of religion” in socialist nations.


      1. Hi Harry.

        As always I respect your thoughtful insight and well researched opinions, and this subject is no different.
        I thought you might be interested in knowing that our Pastor spoke on his respect for this Pastor in Florida on Sunday, how he respected that he stood his ground for Christ amidst so many, national headlines, and media converging on his small church. I think it took a lot of people by surprise, but it made me think of you.
        I am thinking freedom of religion has done a lot to bring this nation down. We are becoming a Godless nation, and will get Gods judgement for that.
        I also think our own corrupt government are working hand in hand with the islamists to further the New World Order Agenda. And I do believe with all the evidence that I have seen on the 9/11 attacks that they had their ugly hand in that as well.
        Anyway, thanks for another in depth and well taken point Harry.
        God Bless us all.


  2. Harry,

    I would like to clarify your quotation of Acts 19:18-20. In order to understand the context of Acts 19, one has to completely read it. Paul had been given an unusual gifting to heal through handkerchiefs and aprons that simply touched his skin. This happened only after continuing to preach for two years under constant persecution.

    Shortly following, a group of seven vagabond Jews were traveling between cities and casting out evil spirits. One spirit within a man did not come out and attacked them instead saying “Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?” THIS caused great fear of the Lord among Jews and Greeks which caused many of them to confess and follow Jesus. Only then did THEY THEMSELVES bring their OWN pagan books for a public burning.

    This differs greatly from current Christians (“true Christians” or not) burning the Qur’an. These are not Islamic or Muslim converts turning from and burning their old ways, these are people destroying an opportunity to display the LOVE of Christ.

    Is destroying your child’s most precious toy going to make them listen to you? Even if you think their toy is evil. The only way to reach the child is to first love them, then help them understand the truth about the toy. They will discard it on their own. Destroying the toy does not destroy the child’s love for the toy. The same is true for men and women; man and religion. They need to be shown a greater love.


    1. CW, displaying the love of Christ does not require us to respect false systems of belief, false gods, or the lying texts of false religions. Jesus told the woman at the well concerning her religion that “Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews,” [John 4:22]. This was after she tried to claim the Samaritans’ worship traditions were right in spite of what the Jews said. Jesus told her she was wrong.

      Paul in Acts 17 criticized the Athenians for being “too superstitious” and said they were ignorant in their worship.

      And what about the Jews who thought it was okay to sell and trade in the temple? Jesus physically threw them out and overturned their tables.

      All of these examples relate back to false religions like Islam, showing us how our Lord and his apostles stood against false religion in love.

      Burning the Koran is not a hateful act as you imply. It is a righteous stand saying to the Islamic world that even if you kill our citizens and threaten us for speaking out against your violence and false ideas, we will not bow to your god or show him any respect.

      I don’t get upset when people somewhere burn Bibles because they haven’t broken into my house to take my Bible away from me to burn it. The Qurans that were going to be burned in FL and that were burned in NY and destroyed in DC were not forcibly taken from any Muslims. That is the only time I would have a problem with burning them.

      The Muslims getting all worked up are still worked up and are using violence even though the FL event was cancelled. Their personal Korans and the Korans in their mosques were not comfiscated, so their anger is unjustified. The printing presses that publish Qurans were not destroyed either. If they want to print Korans to replace any destroyed anywhere in the world, they can.

      Muslims don’t want us to speak against their false religion and they don’t want anyone to have any Constitutional rights, so they try to label anything they don’t agree with as a hate crime against them. And now Imam Rauf who wants his Cordoba Initiative mosque near Ground Zero is using veiled threats telling us that if we don’t let them build the mosque, somebody, somewhere (American or Christian) is going to die.

      All this lovespeak coming from Christians is not true love. When you love someone you can tell them the truth even when it’s difficult and even if they get offended. As Psalm 141 says, “Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head.”

      All the lovespeak is being used to veil the fear that people have that Muslims will get violent if we speak the truth. It is really the fear of men that is being displayed by Christians who don’t want Korans to be burned.

      Should we now tell God that he wasn’t very loving when he had Elijah stand against the priests of Baal in the contest where God showed himself strong on Elijah’s behalf?

      Should God apologize for knocking over the idol Dagon in 1 Samuel 5 when the Philistines placed the ark of the covenant in Dagon’s temple?

      Maybe God should delete Isaiah chapters 40-50 where he boasts openly how he is superior to any other god made up by man since it would offend all pagans everywhere.

      When the Sanhedrin felt threatened by the apostles preaching about Jesus, they told the apostles not to preach and said there would be consequences if they did. Their response was “we must obey God rather than men.”

      And your example of a child’s toy is not a very useful example. If I had a child that sneaked a ouija board (which is sometimes sold as a toy) into my house which I discovered afterwards, my first concern is their spiritual, moral, and physical safety. Concern for their “feelings” would have to be placed on the back burner and the ouija board or any thing else harmful would have to be destroyed immediately without haste with an explanation after the thing is destroyed.


      1. Harry,

        I was attempting to explain your use of Acts 19:18-20 since it was being used to justify an inapplicable situation. The examples you just gave would have been more properly suited. I do regret, however, that your replies to comments are frequently on the defensive.

        God has no need to apologize for His own actions because they are always correct given he is infallible. We are fallible and human; prone to err. We cannot forget the fruits of the spirit.


      2. Yes, you did explain Acts 19:18-20 as an inapplicable situation and I am frequently on the defensive in comments. I think debating back and forth is a healthy way to expand one’s mind and all too often we Christians avoid debates and being on the defensive when situations warrant it. We are often unprepared to debate or defend our faith because we are like drones going to church or turning on televangelists and accepting whatever is told to us without questioning it or knowing how to reason to mount a good defense against attacks from unbelievers. Then we become shocked when our young people go off to university and face professors who love to ridicule and attack God’s word or valid Christian teachings and they accept what they hear from unbelieving professors then turn away from the faith because they have no clue as to how to think critically, reason, and defend.

        I know this happens because I encountered professors many years ago in the ’80s and ’90s who openly attacked Christianity in classes I took. And I was caught off-guard by it at first but had to learn quickly how to defend my Christian beliefs, no thanks to pastors I had in the past. And if it was that bad in the ’80s and ’90s, it has to be much worse now. So please excuse me if I come off as abrasive. We are living in dark times which call for us as Christians to stop portraying ourselves as weak milktoast types who are afraid of our enemies.

        I appreciate even comments that don’t agree with mine, with a few exceptions. But notice how I include comments of those who disagree with me with the hopes of having an honest debate. Some bloggers don’t.

        But back to Acts 19:18-20. I still believe it applies. Pastor Jones in FL received a little over 200 Korans that were sent to him from all over America so he could burn them. So apparently there were some individuals who wanted the Korans that they owned to be burned. But after you made your point about my use of Acts, you went on to make the case about Christians showing love by not burning Korans, which is why I went on the defensive.

        Humans are indeed fallible, but we as Christians have been commanded to rightly divide the word of truth in spite of our faults and the fruits of the spirit do come into play as you correctly point out. I will gladly show Muslims love when I meet them, but if they share their beliefs, I’m sharing mine with boldness and without apology. And I’ll close by saying that God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind–so there’s no need for Christians to fear threats from the Islamic world by kowtowing to their demands.


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