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proof of God’s existence in the cosmos, pt. 2

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. [Psalm 19:1]

In pt. 1, I discussed the importance of God’s existence and explained some of the scientific evidence in our universe that proves his existence.  I briefly covered the Big Bang theory (just the part of it that shows the universe suddenly appeared) and the first two points from Frank Turek’s acronym for proving God’s existence, SURGE–Second law of thermodynamics, Universe is expanding, Radiation afterglow, Great galaxy seeds, Einstein’s theory of general relativity.  I highlighted how the second law of thermodynamics shows that the energy in the universe is finite and is running out.  I also highlighted the proof that the universe is expanding and how this shows that it at one time did not exist.  And with each point I showed how they proved God’s existence.

 

 

This is the kind of proof that educators block from being taught in public schools and public universities because they would not want students to go down a scientific path that leads right to God himself or for fear of lawsuits.  A majority of educators would rather have converts to their atheistic, agnostic, and humanist religious beliefs and public education is the perfect structure for it, which is why they guard against interpreting scientific fact in any way that acknowledges God’s existence.

Their plan seems to be working in many ways since many kids raised in Christian homes, once they get to university, face a crisis of faith when their unbelieving professors take potshots at the validity of the Bible and what it teaches.  Because many of those kids did not grow up reading the Bible for themselves, they are not rooted and grounded as deeply as they should in the things of God and become offended by God’s word, turning their backs on what they were told growing up.

But now I will cover the next two points of the SURGE acronym.

Radiation afterglow

Scientists, who took into account the Big Bang along with the 2nd law of thermodynamics and Edwin Hubble’s proof of universal expansion, came to theorize in the 1940s that if the universe came from nothing then there would most likely be some heat remaining in the universe from the explosion that occurred.  This remnant heat, known as radiation afterglow, is the same type of heat that we can see every day when we turn off the television in the dark and see the screen still glowing for a few seconds afterward or when we turn off fluorescent light bulbs and see them glowing for a few seconds.

In 1965, this radiation afterglow was discovered by two scientists, Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson, in Homedale, NJ at the Bell Laboratories.  They stumbled on this discovery that there was, indeed, some remnant heat in the universe leftover from the Big Bang.  For this discovery, they were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1978.

Arno Penzias eventually admitted, “The best data we have (concerning the Big Bang) are exactly what I would have predicted had I had nothing to go on but the five books of Moses, the Psalms and the Bible as a whole.”

And according to Robert Wilson, “Certainly there was something that set it all off. …I can’t think of a better theory of the origin of the universe to match Genesis.”

When their work was publicized, published, and verified in the scientific community, Robert Jastrow, an agnostic astronomer, stated that no other explanation has been discovered for such radiation besides the Big Bang Theory.  He went on to say that this discovery had put to death any notion of hanging on to the Steady State Theory which claims that the universe was steady, static, and always existed.  According to Jastrow, no one can genuinely hold onto such a theory anymore.

Great galaxy seeds

Since valid, reliable scientific theories tend to spur future scientific discoveries, scientists grabbed hold of the proof of radiation afterglow and theorized that there would have to be very fine variations in the temperature of the radiation afterglow that would make it possible for galaxies to be formed.  It was necessary to get these temperature measurements using a satellite, so in 1989 the COBE (COsmic Background Explorer) was launched and randomly measured temperatures in the radiation afterglow as it orbited the Earth.  In 1992, the measurements were completed and it was found that the temperature variations, or great galaxy seeds, really did exist and temperatures varied 1 part in 100,000 in the afterglow.

George Smoot, a professor at UC Berkeley, led the scientific expedition and was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2006 for this discovery.  Smoot went on to say, “There is no doubt that a parallel exists between the big bang as an event and the Christian notion of creation from nothing.”

Source: Frank Turek, I Don’t Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist, NRB Broadcast, Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:00-9:00 pm, Eastern Standard Time.

Personal note on the Big Bang Theory:  The theory coveries a wide range of hypotheses, such as the universe being millions of years old, to which I don’t agree.  I DO agree with the part of the theory that acknowledges the sudden appearance of the cosmos from nothing.

–posted by Harry A. Gaylord–

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7 thoughts on “proof of God’s existence in the cosmos, pt. 2

  1. The interview with George Wilson he actually says “If you’re religious, I see no better explaination than Genesis” I honestly think it’s not honest to leave that out

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    1. First of all, his name is Robert, not George. Secondly, the quote is “Certainly there was something that set it all off…Certainly, if you are religious, I can’t think of a better theory of the origin of the universe to match Genesis.”

      So the point I was making is still valid. The only reason you’re implying I’m dishonest is because of your own biases. I wasn’t being dishonest as anyone can plainly see. It’s amusing that you accuse me of dishonesty, when you absolutely butchered the quote by leaving out more than I did.

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  2. If God created the universe, then who created God? He can’t just pop up out of nowhere.

    I think that there is a rational scientific explaination to exactly how the universe was created that scientists have yet to discover. The whole theory of God is a load of rubbish. And there doesn’t have to be a purpose to life. Your life is what you make of it.
    Also religion has started a lot of wars, and gotten loads of people killed. And each religion thinks that their religion is the best, and above all the other religions.

    God isn’t real, and is just a fantasy created by the minds of people who feel depressed and think that they have no purpose in life and want to feel like they are part of some “greater good” or “higher importance” so they “serve the Lord” to achieve this.

    You retards can have fun smoking your drugs.

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    1. [If God created the universe, then who created God? He can’t just pop up out of nowhere.]

      Bob, you’re making several assumptions here. The Law of Causality says that everything that comes to be must have a cause. It does not say everything needs a cause. God is eternal. He did not “come to be.” Therefore, he does not need to be made.

      “The cause of the universe must have been non-material because if the cause was material / natural, it would be subject to the same laws of decay as the universe. That means it would have to have had a beginning itself and you have the same problem as cycles of births and deaths of universes. So the cause of the universe’s beginning must have been super-natural, i.e. non-material or spirit—a cause outside of space-matter-time. Such a cause would not be subject to the law of decay and so would not have a beginning. That is, the cause had to be eternal spirit.

      “Furthermore, the cause of the universe had to be incredibly powerful; the sheer size and energy seen in the universe together speak of that power; there had to be a sufficient cause.” Creation Ministries International. Who Created God: It’s an Illogical Question.

      [And there doesn’t have to be a purpose to life. Your life is what you make of it.]

      Your logic violates the Law of Noncontradiction. If life is what you make of it, then you have by default given it a purpose. If you think there is no purpose to life, then that very concept is a purpose. In other words, NOT having a purpose becomes the purpose. Therefore, your comment has negated itself and shown itself to be null & void.

      […religion has started a lot of wars, and gotten loads of people killed]

      Correction. “False” religion starts wars & kills and among the false religions is atheism, which means you have once again contradicted yourself. The Soviet Union was formed by wars started by atheists that killed millions. Communist China was started by wars and has been preserved by killing thanks to atheists. The Korean & Vietnam wars were started by atheists and the Communist nations formed by those wars use killing to preserve their atheist nations.

      [God isn’t real, and is just a fantasy…]

      If that were true, then why are there proven fulfilled prophecies that the Bible predicted would happen eons before they happened? The Bible also has been proven to relay very accurate historical facts, such as the existence of the Hittite empire and the laws and customs of ancient nations. It also accurately reflects real occurrences in the lives of real ancient personalities, like Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus. What’s fantasy is your comment, which I know was just a “hit-and-run” that atheists typically do at Christian websites and they aren’t interested in responses like mine that show how illogical their logic is.

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  3. Interesting read.
    I will note that aethiests and christians will completely disagree with each other’s opinions and you can’t change or judge what they believe in. I personally do not believe in god and your article has not convinced me of his existence, and I have noticed that a lot of christians or people who believe in god seem to think that they, or their opinions, are “superior” or “better” than those of non-believers. I also think it is stupid when christians say that people should “serve the lord” – man’s responsibility is to serve himself, and live his own life and enjoy himself. I do believe that there are certain morals by which man should live by and I am by no means saying that it is okay if man’s desire is to go round killing everyone! hahaha.
    Another thing I want to note that I have read in other places is people saying “man is full of sin and god is a holy being and he must punish sin and lead the darkness of mankind to the light” and things like that. I think mankind is amazing, and we have created many wonderful things. Yes it is true that some have done some pretty bad stuff, but others have made the world a better place.
    Another thing that, imo, is pretty stupid is how christians say that they have talked to god and he has given them a better plan of what to do in life and it is much better than what they originally intended.
    The idea of god, to me, sounds too crazy to be real. But if it makes your life worth living, well, whatever floats your boat 😉 But you can’t go round putting non-believers down – we are all the same people, and we just have different views on life.
    We don’t need to serve anyone. Our responsibility is to ourselves, not god. But if serving “god” makes you feel like you have purpose, then by all means do whatever you wish. Those who don’t want to have a bar of it can get on with their lives and live happily.
    I have been threatened by christians that if I don’t serve god, I will go to hell. I think this is utter rubbish, and christians should not go round saying this sort of stuff because it is quite nasty. Just keep it to yourselves 😉

    “Your life is yours alone. Rise up and live it”.

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  4. eddie, the purpose of life is finding out what caused us and the discovery of truth if you don’t want to believe in God then it’s fine. In essence, God also gave all the intelligent beings the “free will” which is a part of God’s will itself but because God is the creator of all creatures and whole of the universe, God can impose conditions for the life of his creations. I ask you, if you create something such as for example you’re a scientist and you created a humanoid robot, would you not enforce conditions on it such as a program to recognise people and do something appropriately to make it right and working exactly as you want? It’s the same concept of creation as well as mankind’s proper conduct laws to make the world a just place. If you’re also a creator such as a website designer or a filmmaker, would you not want to put credits on your websites or films stating that you made them? It is just that God wants us to believe in him through religious scriptures such as the bible and punish those who don’t want to believe on him just like the world companies who are actively prosecuting people who do not acknowledge their patented creations.

    [I also think it is stupid when christians say that people should “serve the lord” – man’s responsibility is to serve himself, and live his own life and enjoy himself. I do believe that there are certain morals by which man should live by and I am by no means saying that it is okay if man’s desire is to go round killing everyone! hahaha]

    Your comments in this part CONTRADICTS itself! You’re saying that man’s responsibility is to serve himself but then you go and say you’re not saying that it’s okay to kill anybody. If you’re saying that our responsibility is to serve and please only ourselves then you’re PRACTICALLY saying that a man can DO anything he wants including killing others because you’re saying that man’s responsibility is to serve “himself”. BY SERVING ONLY YOURSELF, moral values will be pointless because morals only concern other people but then you said you do believe in certain morals. You’re a HYPOCRITE!! Also, Christians don’t force you to “serve the Lord” they are just trying to spread the word that God exists and has a will and laws that must be followed and that Christians themselves think that they have the responsibility to tell other people like you they know about the true purpose of life and to be morally right because God created conscience and conditions of morality through the “eternal” spirit.

    [The idea of god, to me, sounds too crazy to be real. But if it makes your life worth living, well, whatever floats your boat]

    You’re the most closed-minded and stupid atheist person I’ve ever heard! Too crazy to be real!?? Huh!!??? But then crazy atheists like you think that all natural things that have a cause came from NOTHING!!!!??????

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