More information on the co-existence of dinosaurs & humans

June 2, 2007

I recently purchased a booklet by John Allen Watson, Man Dinosaurs and Mammals Together, that goes into detail about his research of the South Carolina phosphate beds where fossils had previously been recovered showing man roaming the Earth at the same time as dinosaurs.  Mr. Watson, who is now retired and resides in Texas, got his Bachelor of Science in geology from the University of Texas @ Austin with continuing education courses in hydrology and meteorology, working for a time as a hydrologist with the Texas Water Commission.  He worked with creation scientists on his research project.  Here are excerpts from his booklet to update my previous post:

“In South Carolina, centering on the Charleston vicinity, is a geological/paleontological phenomenon which defies satisfactory explanation by popular evolutionary-uniformitarian theory.  This is the enigma of the rock phosphate beds, locally known loosely as the Ashley Beds, an enormous graveyard of animals ranging through the geologic column from Cretaceous to Holocene–and including the occurrence of man.  Mixed together in a pell-mell fashion are the remains of living things as ancient (by popular theory) as dinosaurs and as recent as early man.” (p. 10.)

“The origin of the rock phosphate beds/stratum is rather obvious: a derivation of the phosphoric acid of the bones.  Such was the opinion from chemists of many fertilizer companies engaged in mining the valuable deposits.  The deposits, as a result, were popularly known by the chemists and the public as true bone phosphates.  By one estimate … the bones made up 65% of the deposits in the region of the Ashley River basin.  Creationists of the time accepted this idea.  But uniformitarian geologists/paleontologists in general have not accepted the obvious bone origin of the rock phosphate deposits and still cast about for an evolutionary-uniformitarian origin for them.” (p. 11)

Since remains of land animals and sea animals were found together, a catastrophic event “would have included the burial of enormous numbers of animals … and their subsequent conversion into rock phosphate over a region of at least 200 miles by 30 miles in extent–which is only the partially exposed part.  Such an event is of the order and magnitude of the worldwide Noahic Flood.”, (p. 13)

“The occurrence of hadrosaurine dinosaur remains in the Ashley phosphate beds … has not been dealt with in the secular scientific literature–the silence is typical.  The occurrence is documented in two sources: 1) by Frances S. Holmes, a well known professor of geology/paleontology and agriculture at the College of Charleston [Holmes, F. S., 1870.  The Phosphate Rocks of South Carolina and the Great Carolina Marl Bed, Holmes Book House, p. 31], and 2) by J. C. Keener, a minister of rank [Keener, J. C. 1900.  The Garden of Eden and the Flood, Publishing House of the M. E. Church, South, p. 63].”  (p. 20)

Mr. Watson discusses all of the arguments conjured up by evolutionists to explain away this phenomenon.  One such argument by Maurice Slansky (Geology of Sedimentary Phosphates) deals with upwelling currents to explain the amount of phosphate found in the region.  But his “uniformitarian view ignores the great potential that animal bones have as a source of calcium phosphate. … The first phosphate fertilizers consisted solely of crushed bones.  Bones were burned for fuel (Ezekiel 24:5) and the ash used for manufacturing very high grade super phosphate and pure phosphate products.   The ash of the average bone is 87 percent calcium phosphate.  Thus, bones are probably the richest source of calcium phosphate of sedimentary phosphates.  By contrast, the ocean water source of phosphate from upwelling currents is very, very meager, only 1 x 10 [to the -5th] percent … One estimate of the bone fraction of the South Carolina phosphate rocks is 65 percent … The rocks are reported ‘…to contain as high as 60 or even more, per centum of calcium phosphate…’ …Therefore, how can we escape the reasonableness and evidence of a bone origin for the rocks and opt for the popular oceanic origin?  We can do so only to serve evolutionary theory at the cost of truth.” (p. 26-27)

A list of the many fossils found in the phosphate beds include, but are not limited to, the following:

  • Mastodon (teeth, vertebrae, bones)
  • Elephant (teeth, tail, ear bones, tusk)
  • Horse (extinct species, teeth, tibia)
  • Monkey (femora)
  • Raccoon (teeth)
  • Dolphin (skull, vertebra, tail bone)
  • Manatee (skull, bones, ribs)
  • Iguanodon dinosaur (bones)
  • Hadrosaurus dinosaur (bones)
  • Plesiosaurus dinosaur (teeth)
  • Crocodile (heads, teeth, ribs)
  • Sand shark (teeth)
  • Tiger shark (teeth)
  • Swordfish (Jaw)
  • American Indian (jaws, teeth, bones, pottery, arrowheads, brass weights)

Another area in North America showing that man (giants) and dinosaurs co-existed is the Taylor Trail in Glen Rose, Texas.  You can view pictures of it here.  There have been reports that evolutionists who fear the truth have visited such sites to deface them so the evidence will be destroyed.

I would suggest that you purchase John Allen Watson’s inexpensive and informative booklet for more information.

Source: Watson, John Allen. Man Dinosaurs and Mammals Together: Phosphate Rocks/Bone Phosphates of South Carolina: An Analysis of Their Occurrence, Origin, Importance and Instruction for the Creation/Evolution Controversy.  Crosbyton, TX: Mt. Blanco Publishing Co., 2001.

–posted by Harry A. Gaylord–


Evaluations of Darwin’s speculations

May 31, 2007

Evolution, or natural selection, is often assumed to be true because it’s taught in public schools, many scientists back it, and because those who buy into it either hate the idea of God’s involvement in creation or they want to minimize his influence.  Even Darwin called the idea of natural selection a theory and it’s a theory which did not originate with him, but he became the most prominent figure to espouse the idea.  Here’s what he said about this theory:

“When on board H.M.S. Beagle, as naturalist, I was much struck with certain facts in the distribution of the organic beings inhabiting South America … On my return home, it occurred to me, in 1837, that something might perhaps be made out on this question [of origin of species] by patiently accumulating and reflecting on all sorts of facts which could possibly have any bearing on it. After five years’ work I allowed myself to speculate on the subject, and drew up some short notes; …

In the five succeeding chapters, the most apparent and gravest difficulties in accepting the theory will be given: namely, first, the difficulties of transitions, …” Origin of Species, Introduction, ¶¶1, 8 (emphasis mine).

Darwin also acknowledged his theory was not the only possible explanation of species–”Furthermore, I am convinced that natural selection has been the most important, but not the exclusive, means of modification.” Origin of Species, Introduction, ¶9 (emphasis mine).

In essence, Darwin took the facts he observed and twisted the facts to suit his own personal beliefs. Although he grew up in a Christian home, he rebelled against what he was taught. It might be possible that he blamed God for his mother’s death in his early childhood. But here are some other statements made by Darwin in comparison to the Bible:

  • “Although much remains obscure, and will long remain obscure, I can entertain no doubt, after the most deliberate study and dispassionate judgment of which I am capable, that the view which most naturalists until recently entertained, and which I formerly entertained–namely, that each species has been independently created–is erroneous.” Origin of Species, Introduction, ¶9 (emphasis mine)
  • Genesis 1 says God created each species individually after its own kind.
  • Darwin said, “Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.”
  • According to the Bible, there are many problems which science cannot solve.  Science cannot deal with the sin in one’s heart, it does not always heal sickness, nor can it resist devilish forces.  Only God through Jesus Christ has the power to cleanse us from sin (1 John 1:9), heal every disease (Psalm 103:2-3), and give us victory over evil spirits (Luke 10:19).
  • Darwin said, “In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals because they succeed in adapting themselves best to their environment.”
  • Although adapting oneself to one’s environment helps one survive, the Bible is filled with examples of God defending the weak against those who are stronger in spite of adapting (e.g. David vs. Goliath, Moses vs. Pharoah, Elijah vs. Ahab and Jezebel, etc.).  It is ultimately God who determines whether a nation stands or falls (Jeremiah 18:7-8).
  • Darwin said, ” Believing as I do that man in the distant future will be a far more perfect creature than he now is, it is an intolerable thought that he and all other sentient beings are doomed to complete annihilation after such long-continued slow progress”
  • God clearly states in his word that man will become worse in his sinfulness (2 Timothy 3:1-5).  God will have to punish man with plagues and ultimately destroy sinful man and the earth because of man’s ever-increasing evil (Revelation 6-20).
  • Darwin said, “I am a strong advocate for free thought on all subjects, yet it appears to me (whether rightly or wrongly) that direct arguments against christianity & theism produce hardly any effect on the public; & freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men’s minds, which follow[s] from the advance of science. It has, therefore, been always my object to avoid writing on religion, & I have confined myself to science. I may, however, have been unduly biased by the pain which it would give some members of my family, if I aided in any way direct attacks on religion”
  • Darwin claimed to have avoided direct attacks on religion, but his theories are just that.  Science can help man understand certain things about his world, however ”[t]he fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”  And Darwin was a fool indeed.  God can reveal much more about science to those who seek him out than people like Darwin who want to avoid him altogether.

 Darwin had the wisdom of this world which is foolishness with God.  His theories will one day be  shown openly to be complete folderol, poppycock, and utterly bogus.  He was a man who was “ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” (2 Timothy 3:7) and those who follow his beliefs are like him.


Dinosaurs and humans co-existed

May 12, 2007

This information isn’t new, but bears repeating since it is often ignored by the God-hating Darwinists.  It is an article that appears at the Creation Moments website. 

Proof of Humans and Dinosaurs Together
Genesis 1:31
“Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”

According to the story of life offered by evolution, dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years before man ever set foot on Earth. According to the Bible, all living things were made during a six-day period of time. This means that humans and dinosaurs walked the Earth at the same time. If evidence that they lived together could be found, evolutionary history would be very seriously challenged.

Scientists who believe in creation know that if human remains were found fossilized with dinosaur remains, evolutionists could not ignore the evidence. That evidence has been discovered in a giant fossil graveyard that has even been described in the scientific literature. Textbooks on evolution neglect to mention it for obvious reasons.

The layer is a 15- to 18-inch thick layer of phosphate rock in the southeastern United States. The rock is 65 percent phosphate, which means that the layer is made primarily of the bones of dead animals. The bones were clearly deposited by a huge flood – the deposit is at least as large as the Everglades! And mixed into the layer are bones of all sorts of animals that evolution says could not have lived together, including human bones and Hadrosaurus bones.

Did men of the generations recorded in the Bible see great herds of duckbill dinosaurs ranging the grasslands of the Earth? According to the Bible, they could have. Now geology has finally caught up with the Bible!

References: John Allen Watson. 1991. Phosphate Rocks/Bone Phosphates of South Carolina. The Ark Today VI:5, Nov./Dec. p. 14-19.”

This post has been updated here.